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Right now, it looks like the workers will get raises of 3%, 4%, and 4% for each year of a three-year contract, and while all workers would need to "contribute toward health insurance," the contract "would not change the existing pension plan or retirement age," according the Daily News' sources . More stats. From the Post - right now, the union doesn't pay anything towards health care premiums, while the MTA's health care costs are about 12% annually. And from the Daily News, an illustration of what the raises will do: "Bus drivers, the largest job title, have a starting salary of about $35,000 a year and a top salary, not including overtime, of about $50,000. Including scheduled overtime, the base pay rises to about $58,500." There does seem to be some dissension within the TWU, because some members feel like they aren't getting enough (though others are just relieved). Mayor Bloomberg's decision to use the word "thuggish" in his "stop illegally striking"-press conferences is still being criticized by the black community , and some historians think the Strike of 2005 will be forgettable . Posted by Jen Chung in MTA , News: NYC , Transit Strike 2005 | [+] add to del.icio.us add to digg add to yahoo related at technorati Email This Entry To: From: Message (optional): TrackBacks TrackBack URL for this entry: http://www.gothamist.com/mt/mt-tb.cgi/13098 Advertisement: Gothamist Continues Below! Comments Can they at least make the Contract expire in the Spring?? Posted by: S.D. | December 27, 2005 10:27 AM The TWU is getting away with murder, if their pensions aren't on the table then pataki took us all for a ride on a delayed F train. That crack whore Touissant should stop race baiting and act like a union leader instead of grandstanding. next subway ride just spit on these criminals - they have a lot of nerve. Posted by: krackilow | December 27, 2005 10:40 AM Toussaint isn't the pne race-baiting. That honor belongs to the mayor and to commenter Krackilow. "Crack whore?" come on, be reasonable. The one thing you are saying with which i agree with wholeheartedly is that Pataki took us for a ride. The MTA could have easily prevented the strike from happening had Pataki been willing to avert it and force Kalikow to negotiate in good faith. Instead, the governor was off campaigning in New Hamshire. Don't take this out on Toussaint, who was doing what union leaders should: fighting for the workers who elected him. The lion's sharre of the blame here belongs to the MTA. Posted by: zach | December 27, 2005 11:02 AM thug One entry found for thug. Main Entry: thug Pronunciation: 'th&g Function: noun Etymology: Hindi thag, literally, thief : a brutal ruffian or assassin Why do you assume all crack whores to be of a minority; that's pretty racist in my book. The mayor, quite correctly labeled the illegal strikers as thugs because they were extorting the citizens of the city who have NO power to address the situation. Yes the MTA is a crooked commission, and the Governor and our beloved state legislators are to blame for their lack of action - but under no circumstances should TWU 100 be let off the hook for their crimes. BTW - the crack whore reference to Toiussant wasn't intended to be racist; he's just addicted to his own ego and will say or do whatever he can to satisfy it. We here at Gothamist aren't racist, unless of course we're talking about chinks and sarah silverman. Happy Kwanza. Posted by: krackilow | December 27, 2005 11:22 AM I am sure that Mayor Bloomberg would have described the TWU as thugs and the strike as illegal regardless of the orgin of its head. Roger Toussant is Mike Quill, who was a thug and IRA terrorist. Now Toussant had a bad case of Sharpton-itis - ie. he loves to be the centre of attention without caring who gets screwed in the process or little things like facts and a desire to do anything positive for his constituency, as if they get what they want he would loose power. Remember, Roger's illegal strike will cost around $1000 for the workers who struck. Posted by: Toby | December 27, 2005 12:05 PM about the 12% annually: the post says it's increasing by 12% annually. looking at the 04 annual report, the health and welfare costs are 710, which makes it 17% of the combined payroll plus health and welfare costs. Posted by: kenneth | December 27, 2005 12:16 PM The workers voted for the strike. They went on strike knowing full well what they were getting into. It may be more comfortable for you to demonize Toussaint as some sort of demagogue, but the workers i spoke to on the picket lines knew full well what they were doing and why they were doing it. This isn't about Roger Toussaint or Mike Bloomberg, it's about the right to strike and about workers' ability to preserve and extend benefits to new members of unions and new sectors of the labor force in the face of pseudo-public corporate bureaucracies like the MTA which are trying to initiate needless cutbacks despite a billion dollar surplus. That's why this strike happened. As for crack whores: The figure/trope of the crack whore is a deeply racialized one in American popular culture and was a central image in the late 80s rise of a certain iteration of the racialized discourse of criminality which republicans used with such great sucess during, for instance, the 1988 presidential election in the figure of Willie Horton. When people use the phrase "crack whore" in the way that you have, they are tapping into a lexicon of black criminality and wild sexuality which is deeply racist. Applied to Toussaint, it seems to evoke an intensification of the "Welfare Mother" trope which strikes me as profoundly racist. Posted by: zach | December 27, 2005 12:31 PM The strike was illegal because the TWU has a near monopoly of an essential service. If they don't understand the moral difference between a strike in that situation and a strike otherwise, I suggest the Taylor law be amended to require a one-week cutoff of electricity, gas, water, and sewer service, and garbage pick-up to TWU members for each day of a strike. To compare the pay, the average (mean) NYC worker GOT $67,000 in 2004 -- if the high-paid finance and headquarter sectors are excluded, the rest of us EARNED an average of $49,600. So I don't think the TWU members are overpaid for what they do by any means. They just get to work a lot less over a lifetime than the rest of us will be. So striking for 20/50 (and don't let them tell you otherwise) was obscene. Posted by: Larry Littlefield | December 27, 2005 12:40 PM larry - thank you for reminding me what I left out of my original post; amend the Taylor law, yes, yes, yes. I was thinking more along the lines of 1week/day + $1000 as a pre-executed judgement against any union member. Along with their benefits administration package they must sign the execution of judgment in advance. zach-you're a communist. If only NYC Transit & the City of New York could secede from state control, then Bloomberg could have fired those greedy bastards. Have you seen the air of entitlement that these thugs surround themselves with? Posted by: krackilow | December 27, 2005 01:07 PM krackilow - grow up. And while you're doing that, take your head out of your ass. And don't forget to wipe your face. Posted by: ethan | December 27, 2005 01:27 PM Larry, what that says to me is that "the rest of us" need strong unions, not that the TWU should be subject to greater degrees of privation to balance things out. What struck me as "obscene" about this strike was the rhetoric of a multi-millionaire like Mike Bloomberg and a plutocrat's wet dream like George Pataki attacking striking workers for daring to defend their union against cutbacks in a time of plenty. The real thuggery in this mess came from Mike Bloomberg's bully pulpit. Posted by: zach | December 27, 2005 01:39 PM (Larry, what that says to me is that "the rest of us" need strong unions) That would make the TWU dollar go less far, as they would either pay more for things or pay higher taxes. Personally, I'd like to see national health care financing, but that would make everyone with health insurance today slightly worse off. How many care about the uninsured, or have the wisdom to realize they may be the uninsured tomorrow? And regardless, you can't have 12% more health care every year. (not that the TWU should be subject to greater degrees of privation to balance things out.) This was not about greater degrees of privateion. It was about: 1) another pension sweetener in the TWU demanded, to 20/50. There is no way everyone can be supported for one year by others for every year they work, period. 2) who gets stuck with the bill for past sweetener passed outside collective bargaining in 2000, along with Pataki's debt and inadequate employer pension contributions even before 2000. My view: no 20/50, and TWU members should pay for the share of the pension hole caused by the 20/50 sweetener and rising longevity, but not the employer underfunding. Posted by: Anonymous | December 27, 2005 01:49 PM Time of plenty- Hah! It is all about the pensions. They are going to crush us- remember this year is the year the boomers start to retire en mass. And the fact is, if the MTA and City get the union split into two camps- new and old, they will have "won" in that a divided union is pretty much impotent. The workers and their union are greedy and should be fined. The workers have great jobs, with great beneifits and simply want more of the same. I would do the same, and expect to pay the price if my tatics backfired. The mayor and gov should have figured out a way to fire them all. Posted by: Max | December 27, 2005 01:52 PM Anybody watching local government channels, such as channel 25, saw scroll across their screen during the strike: ...contigency plan for illegal strike .... along with the news coverage that didn't discuss the strike as a historical right we have in America as workers to unionize and that it brought us great things such as maternity leave, child labor laws and the like was a detriment. The question isn't why do "they" get pay raises when no-one else does, it is, why aren't the rest of America asking more from their employers? A: everyone believes in a dog eat dog world that doesn't really exist. Not everyone can climb to the top of a corporate ladder, there are far fewer rungs at the top to hold us all. Meanwhile those at the top don't want the hierarchy to change so they try and succeed at pitting each one of us against each other. What was done last week was "illegal" by definition of the law, but so was invading Iraq, and so is the goverments stealing of American taxes to put to use to their own pay raises, and their own republic-based system of a caretaker-gets-more-system. Wake Up Morans! (sic) Posted by: Nick D. | December 27, 2005 02:01 PM hey nick - the definition of the law, IS THE LAW. BTW - the invasion of Iraq, although questionable was legal, and authorized by the UN as well. Strikes and unions are legal, but in the public interest a LAW was passed to protect the citiziens against renegade actions. One last thing; 'their republic based system', is yours too - conceived by the founding fathers, and in theory creates opportunity for all in some form or another. Posted by: i_hate_dummies | December 27, 2005 02:15 PM Fox 5 being Fox, had a big full screen graphic with the words ILLEGAL TRANSIT STRIKE, with the word "ILLEGAL" in red. An image of that an WNYE's crawl can be found here . Posted by: Toby | December 27, 2005 02:24 PM Thanks for the "ILLEGAL" links, couldn't find word about that. It is so interesting to me that they would post that on the scrawls. What does that accomplish? Again more "red meat for the dopes". Look: My point is the legality was a main focus of the coverage. Even when asking pedestrians about the strike, the reporters still asked passerby's, "what do you think about this damn union thing" (basically). There was little to no discourse about this strike, just the Mayor and Governor throwing their weight around, and well they should (it's their job), so is getting the 9-11 funds to NY, so is their job to reduce wasteful spending and to enforce the rights of the people (housing rights, ...). But the power conceivably is in the people, if the people don't act then the caretakers act, if nobody questions authority then we all lose. What is lost is not our support of unions, but our support of the American tapestry / way of life, that we used to be proud of. It's now easier to put down one another than support local mom and pop stores (unless it's your own) etc. Founding fathers knew that this was all doomed but in the same vein exist Americans who fight for their rights, fight for a better life, and few or large in number they are the real power, not your boss, not the big businesses. We have just slowly and more readily allowed them to "take care of us" so we don't have to. Posted by: Nick D. | December 27, 2005 02:36 PM fox was indeed pretty egregious. then again, all their title design is a crime. Posted by: dhex | December 27, 2005 02:36 PM This sentence really stuck out in the NY-1 article - "Meanwhile, the TWU is reportedly considering fining those members who crossed the picket line during the strike." The TWU execs thuggishly give the green light to witch hunting suspect transit workers who think it's a stupid idea to go on strike without realizing any increased gains. Also noticed in one of these articles that anti-free speech activist Norm Siegel is back to lecture the naughty population of new york about the proper use of the english language. He lost the Public Advocate election by a large margin last fall, but feels that he'll still take on the role. Posted by: pugsley | December 27, 2005 02:41 PM hey I lost that election too; if I had won I'd have gone out to the picket lines and shot them all in the back - twice! Posted by: bernie_goetz | December 27, 2005 02:46 PM Post a comment Are you aware of our Comment Policy ? Name: Email Address: URL: Remember personal info? 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( view more ) [ View All Blog Entries ] Andrea's Blurbs About me: I'd like an "anarchy burger" hold the government! Image created at MySpace Image Code I have this strange habit well I guess you could call it a habit cuz I don't know what the hell to call it..... of barking and howling like a dog. Yes I do it out loud!!! I do it alot. I do it in strange situations, uncomfortable ones, at shows, concerts, when I am mad, happy, excited, nervous, intoxicated, sober you name it... I will bark and howel. And for some strange reason people around me get pissed. I am not kidding. It is my strange way of venting I guess!! I am very opinionated, loud,quiet(don't ask) funny,quick witted sometimes strange witted you need to be fast and not easily offended to keep up! I am almost always misunderstood. That gets very frustrating. I am moody, complex, silly, love to talk, listen, sarcasm. I love to write. I think a lot and analyze everything and everyone. Crafts, making things, art, I make jewelry and have been making it for about 13 years or so, used to sell my jewelry at a few different places and also craft shows, learning new things, I love animals I have a cat(Millie is my baby) and a bunny, I am a bit of a poker whore(and I tend to be a sore looser) I am a GREAT listener. I love my sister and brother deeply, they are the most important to me. No matter how much we all can't stand each other at times. I am an excellent, fun, loyal friend. I won't put up with any bullshit and I will be the first to tell you! If you wanna hear the truth come to me. I HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS I HAVE JUST BEEN SWORN TO SECRECY.. Background provided by DFSM Who I'd like to meet: Nostradamus, and........ Andrea's Custom Made Friends Andrea has Unlimited amounts of custom made Friends Juliette & the Licks Nikatine Rox Dustin Sexy nina *darkfae* lisa Gords Eskimos mercury51 View all of Andrea's Crazy Custom Made Friends Jeffrey_Daddy G-Nee Faith the Atheist Liz Maegan The Parka Kings Alicia Lluvia Andrea's Friend Space Andrea has 101 friends. Juliette & the Licks Nikatine Rox Dustin Sexy Nina *darkfae* mercury51 lisa AbsentStar View All ofAndrea's Friends Andrea's Friends Comments Displaying 37 of 37 comments ( View/Edit All Comments ) ~ G - Nee ~ 1/11/2006 10:43:00 AM Sexy Nina 1/9/2006 7:20:00 AM My Fourteen Favorite Girls!!" (on myspace) It's hard for me to only pick 14 gals to send this to, so consider yourself lucky... and LOVED! If I don't get this back I understand. And will not be offended. Once you read this letter, you must send it to 14 females The Females you favor the most!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ROCK!!! Vikki Vale ♥ 1/7/2006 3:14:00 PM My Fourteen Favorite Girls!!" (on myspace) It's hard for me to only pick 14 gals to send this to, so consider yourself lucky... and LOVED! If I don't get this back I understand. And will not be offended. Once you read this letter, you must send it to 14 females The Females you favor the most!!!!!!!!!!! Lluvia 1/7/2006 2:13:00 PM Hey girl, how you doing? I`m in mexico, enjoying the nice weather, forgot to tell you......... coming back by the 16th..... I wish i could send you a sunshine from my hometown... :) lisa 1/7/2006 1:52:00 PM hahah here you go.... My Fourteen Favorite Girls!!" (on myspace) It's hard for me to only pick 14 gals to send this to, so consider yourself lucky... and LOVED! If I don't get this back I understand. And will not be offended. Once you read this letter, you must send it to 14 females The Females you favor the most!!!!!!!!!!! Maegan 1/7/2006 11:00:00 AM Hey girl! How's it going? I am just getting over the flu... bleh... Hope all is well! Maegan ~ G - Nee ~ 1/6/2006 3:15:00 PM My Fourteen Favorite Girls!!" (on myspace) It's hard for me to only pick 14 gals to send this to, so consider yourself lucky... and LOVED! If I don't get this back I understand. And will not be offended. Once you read this letter, you must send it to 14 females The Females you favor the most!!!!!!!!!!! Vikki Vale ♥ 1/6/2006 2:04:00 PM Hi! Hectic but fun! I'm glad to turn over a new leaf for the New Year...I'm still on track with my resolutions...hitting the gym more often and trying to learn French! Have a great weekend! :) *darkfae* 1/5/2006 8:03:00 PM hey!! glad to hear your holidays were good...mine were pretty darn good too!!! i'm finally settling into my new surroundings, and the kitties are doing well at my parents! school starts on monday and i'm scared to death!!! Nikatine Rox 1/5/2006 6:58:00 PM sad minnie mouse Sexy Nina 1/5/2006 7:30:00 AM hey, gorgeous!! just stopping by to say hi! hope the new year is good so far. ttyl =) Nikatine Rox 1/3/2006 4:39:00 PM Happy New Years! ~ G - Nee ~ 1/2/2006 2:03:00 PM Doug 12/30/2005 8:59:00 AM Thanks! Glad you had a good time. I can't talk today. Vikki Vale ♥ 12/28/2005 11:57:00 PM Lucius Warbaby 12/28/2005 10:48:00 AM We just wanted to stop by and say thanks for adding us and have a great New Year Black Page 12/25/2005 11:00:00 AM Merry Xmas !!! Holidays are short!!! ROCK THEM HARD!! LIVE YOUR ROCK!!! Jason-Neil Lluvia 12/24/2005 3:06:00 PM Just want to wish you a Merry Christmas........Have a wonderful time tonite!! Wish you the best for today and the coming year. Luv Lluv:) Sexy Nina 12/22/2005 5:56:00 PM Life is good right now! how's life treating you? Vikki Vale ♥ 12/22/2005 9:35:00 AM Lluvia 12/21/2005 7:48:00 PM Hey Girl, is so good to have a friend like you at my space.... Love you profile!! Luv Lluv Invisible choir 12/21/2005 4:28:00 PM Thanks so much for the comment! Emiko's one of our new songs from a new album we're working on. Stay in touch =) Meesh 12/20/2005 9:10:00 PM Thanks for the invite!! MEESH Official Site Myspace Page Black Page 12/19/2005 2:07:00 PM Yeah !!!! Thx for the add!!! The song on your page is cool!!!!! Keep in touch an live your rock!!!! New stuff will be added soon!! Jason-Neil Sexy Nina 12/17/2005 5:04:00 PM lisa 12/13/2005 3:28:00 PM haha thats funny... about the heritage thing, its keith's sweatshirt. that's ok then right? *darkfae* 12/11/2005 2:36:00 PM hey girlie!! thanks for the add!! us crazy neurotic's need to stay together!! ;) Carbonfour 12/9/2005 8:11:00 AM Posted some new pics for ya. Juliette & the Licks 12/8/2005 8:17:00 PM Stay tuned, especially you Andrea!!! -The Licks Blazer 12/6/2005 4:22:00 PM thanks Andrea- we'll definately be up to play Detroit sometime in 06- do hope to see you there- Jeffrey_Daddy 12/5/2005 9:48:00 PM Those aren't lucky charms!! Hosted at MySpaceNow.com Sid Maudlin 12/5/2005 8:44:00 AM nitzer ebb? i'll take it;-) thank u. xo. AbsentStar 12/2/2005 10:54:00 AM Come say hi to us after the show. :) Derek AbsentStar 12/2/2005 12:32:00 AM We will be at the Belmont on Saturday Dec. 17th. You better be there. Derek/AbsentStar Glideascope 11/29/2005 12:24:00 PM Thanks Andrea for your comments, your support is much appreciated. Peace and love from London, -Glideascope glideascope | downtempo music Nikatine Rox 11/28/2005 7:23:00 PM What's going on????I need some pineapples! Jeffrey_Daddy 11/28/2005 7:21:00 PM will that burn????? the jungle juice i mean??? i almost think that the pineapple enzymes might exfoliate a little...IS THIS TRUE? 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