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Om Malik on Broadband : » Why Murdoch Really Bought MySpace? Om Malik's Blog About the next generation internet. About Contact Advertise Feed Widget Why Murdoch Really Bought MySpace? Posted in Broadband Life + Readers Writeback He is planning to create a competitor to MTV. Much like Viacom’s CBS decided to use the broadband web to bypass cable and compete against the 24-hour news networks like CNN and FoxNews. Guest Post by Robert Young There has been much speculation and analyses as to why Rupert Murdoch acquired MySpace. The prevailing consensus seems to be that News Corp’s motivation was to buy ad inventory targeted at the social network’s valuable young demographic (e.g. see John Battelle’s comments .) That’s overtly simplistic. Moreover, it’s very difficult to justify a $580 million cash payment on that basis alone. Although ad inventory was surely part of the equation, I believe there is larger strategic reason that motivated Murdoch to make such a bold move: He is planning to create a competitor to MTV. Much like Viacom’s CBS decided to use the broadband web to bypass cable and compete against the 24-hour news networks like CNN and FoxNews (see PaidContent’s coverage here ), the acquisition of MySpace positions Murdoch to challenge the dominance of MTV in their category. I’m willing to bet that he will go even further by eventually extending the MySpace brand to include a dedicated cable & satellite network/channel. He is after all an old media guy . In fact, just a couple of weeks before News Corp. announced the deal, we all witnessed the web’s potential in this context when AOL’s webcasting audience for Live 8 outreached MTV and ABC’s ratings of the same event ( details here .) Such a data point can go a long way towards justifying a $580 million price tag. In addition to live concerts, MySpace is an ideal platform to release music videos (which the major record labels are desperately trying to monetize), as well as other short-form reality programming (think Fox’s “American Idol”) that’s likely to attract the 22 million youngsters in the MySpace community… an audience that happens to also watch MTV. No matter what you may think of Rupert Murdoch, he never overpays and you can’t underestimate his brilliance. After all, he challenged the 3 major TV broadcast networks by creating Fox, then he challenged CNN by launching FoxNews, and he’s currently revamping FX with a slate of edgy original programming to go against HBO. I believe he’s now going after MTV, and if indeed that was his reason for buying MySpace, not only was it another brilliant move by the media mogul, but the price he paid was a bargain. Robert Young is a serial entrepreneur who’s currently focused on Weed (www.weedshare.com), a digital music service and P2P superdistribution pioneer. During Internet 1.0, he orchestrated the sale of Delphi Internet Services to Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. Posted on August 6th, 2005 — 20 Comments so far If this is the case, which does make sense, the new entity needs a different name. “MySpace” is a terrible name, especially if there is to be a cable channel in the works. Hell, even “Facebook” is an improvement, but that would be a terrible TV channel name as well. Good luck with that one, News Corp. msteinbaugh at August 6th, 2005 at 10:11 AM — Permalink Why Rupert Murdoch Bought MySpace Robert Young thinks that Rupert Murdoch bought MySpace in an effort to compete with MTV in the new media space. I’m not entirely sure that I buy Young’s argument, but it’s compelling. Short-form programming is definitely here on th... The Indiana Jones School of Management at August 6th, 2005 at 10:37 AM — Permalink He almost overpaid on Pointcast. Idealab was just too wrapped-up in the bubble mindset of the time to accept the offer. Dan at August 6th, 2005 at 1:47 PM — Permalink […] and compete against the 24-hour news networks like CNN and FoxNews.” From Young (on Om Malik’s blog): I’m willing to bet that he will go even f […] Search Engine Journal » Rupert Murdoch’s MySpace To Challenge MTV? at August 7th, 2005 at 10:37 PM — Permalink A Rival To MTV Speculating on the reasons that News Corp (NYSE: NWS) bought out Intermix (AMX: MIX), with their hot social networking website, My Space. Robert Young speculates that Murdoch Co., may be preparing to launch a competitor to MTV, owned of course, The Stalwart at August 8th, 2005 at 5:26 AM — Permalink Ypulse Essentials Free the ‘Brats’ (an L.A. Times, reg. required, writer accuses ABC’s brat camp of teensploitation…I also keep reading news stories about teens on the show getting in more trouble…) - Help is in your hand (or your thumb. Ypulse reader… Ypulse at August 8th, 2005 at 8:41 AM — Permalink Not sure if the purchase of Pointcast would have been overpaying. Think of how many people loved Pointcast, and how it could be used nowadays as a cool RSS reader, or content delivery system for such an MTV/Fuse type channel on MySpace. I agree that it would be an odd name for a channel, but it isn’t much worse than Current. Jeremy Pepper at August 8th, 2005 at 3:48 PM — Permalink […] e he will use his acquisition of MySpace to compete against MTV head on, as I speculated in my previous post here ). By integrating content and distribution, Murdoch has built a […] Om Malik’s Broadband Blog » Murdoch, WiMAX and The Two Way Web at August 13th, 2005 at 5:16 PM — Permalink […] annt zu haben. Gerade für Independent Labels ein interessanter Kanal. Es scheint an dem Gerücht, dass Fox mit dem Kauf von Intermix Media, dem Betreiber von MySpace.com, eine […] Market Talk » Blog Archive » Musikmarketing auf myspace.com at August 16th, 2005 at 12:27 PM — Permalink […] enomenon, MySpace is as important, if not more important, than MTV.” Oh didn’t Robert Young say that, like a month ago? In Asides Posted Sunday, August 28, […] Om Malik’s Broadband Blog » Secret Life of My Space at August 28th, 2005 at 5:15 PM — Permalink […] enomenon, MySpace is as important, if not more important, than MTV.” Oh didn’t Robert Young say that, like a month ago? Still a pretty interesting look at how MySpace […] Om Malik’s Broadband Blog » Secret Life of My Space at August 28th, 2005 at 5:18 PM — Permalink A couple comments. First, I would argue that you have to look at the acquisition of MySpace of indicative of how deeply Murdoch gets the importance of user-generated content as a generational macro trend. Social networking as a trend bucket is as much a reflection of consumers really enjoying pimping themselves up through customization and personalization and building affinity networks around that process, as it is about “collecting friends.” Two, I believe that Murdoch gets that when you marry user generated engagement with rich media, you have a model for lock in and leverage since users increasingly have a common reference point for maintaining conversations and communal connections with their peers, which becomes a defensible “space” since it is so context-bound. A couple links. One is a post I wrote on user generated content: http://thenetworkgarden.com/weblog/2005/08/the user create.html. The other is is good article in Businessweek called The Birth of Murdoch.com: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/aug2005/tc20050816 5029 tc024.htm?campaign id=rss techn Mark Sigal at August 29th, 2005 at 10:41 AM — Permalink Hey, yeah, I checked out myspace but I like this better.. If anyone wants to go check it out, do it up. It’s not affiliated with myspace whatsoever.. Murdoch can’t get his icy fingers around you at their site Mike at August 31st, 2005 at 2:25 PM — Permalink Changing the name of a vehicle that is as successful as My Space would be a huge mistake. An entire generation is buying in on this name …. just mention it to anyone under 25 and a few of us in our 50’s and we’ll know. In a marketing environtment that speaks in new language (Skype just to name one) better get used to seeing business’ marketing their groove by the use of unfamiliar names. marc calderwood at September 12th, 2005 at 2:01 PM — Permalink The purchase of pointcast was DEFINITELY overpaying. Its very obvious now. But MySpace ont he other hand…. Nikki at September 14th, 2005 at 8:48 PM — Permalink is that the same Bob Young as in Sociologist at Large? russ at October 31st, 2005 at 11:09 PM — Permalink […] As predicted, MySpace.com creates own record label. Is the music channel next? […] Om Malik’s Broadband Blog — » MySpace Records, out now at November 3rd, 2005 at 8:55 AM — Permalink […] Robert Young, earlier this year, explained to my readers why Rupert Murdoch really bought MySpace for $583 million. He argued that we should wait for Rupert to launch a record label and a music channel that takes on MTV and knocks it off its top spot. Well today, both those things happened. Young has decided to update story, and has written a stirring post, that reminds Murdoch’s men to not get blinded by the Hollywood Bright Lights, or else they ruin the carefully woven fabric of My Space community. This is not the first time he has argued for handling the community with velvet gloves. […] Om Malik’s Broadband Blog — » Bigger Than Google, MySpace is different at November 4th, 2005 at 9:32 AM — Permalink […] A few weeks ago, Rupert Murdoch’s satellite TV operator BSkyB shocked everyone when the company acquired Easynet for $373 million. No one was expecting the media giant to make a move into the high speed Internet access market, even though his acquisitions of MySpace and IGN for an estimated $1.2 billion did indicate his seriousness about the Internet. Now Reuters’ is reporting that he is considering a similar move in the US. “Here (in the United States), we don’t know,” Murdoch told the newspaper. “We may be forming a company with partners to build something out here that would give you broadband.” […] Om Malik’s Broadband Blog — » Murdoch’s Broadband Plans at November 7th, 2005 at 10:53 PM — Permalink […] In this nice little talk about blogs, and power of the community, there is the underlying truth: its about the advertising. The ad-dollars shifting away from traditional forms of media to newer mediums, it behooves News Corp to adapt. (That is precisely the reason I firmly believe that AOL should remain part of Time Warner, despite losing 300 users an hour, and if necessary, selling a piece to Comcast and getting some broadband traction is the best option for TW, than say teeming up with others seeking short term page view pop!) Anyone can buy what they want, shop where they want, talk to anybody in the world that they want (and) state their own opinions. There’s no mystery to a blog: Put up your thoughts (and) find friends….there are lots and lots of communities, and they can all blog — they can all write in a personal diary every week, or whatever they want. There are three very large Internet companies: America Online, which delivers data, which is really what’s keeping them very strong; everyone in the world goes to Yahoo! to do their e-mail, and search with Google. I think online, it’s the search for groupings, identifying search for groupings and providing sites for that — to meet, talk, discuss. These are very interesting; there are huge numbers of people. (We’re going to be) learning a lot about them and then selling advertising to them. Not too obtrusively, but when you target, there’s no waste: 50,000 people over here or 5 million people over there. 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www.myspace.com/jackendino MySpace.com | Home The Web MySpace Help | SignUp Home | Browse | Search | Invite | Rank | Mail | Blog | Favorites | Forum | Groups | Events | Games | Music | Classifieds Videos | Directory | Search | Top Artists | Shows | Music Forums | Music Classifieds | Artist Signup jack endino Grunge / Psychedelic / Rock "Hmmm... that failed to suck." United States Profile Views: 3691 Last Login: 01/07/2006 View more pics Contacting jack endino MySpace URL: http://www.myspace.com/jackendino jack endino General Info Member Since January 23, 2005 Band Website jackendino.com/ Band Members Members? Still got 'em all... Influences Hmmm... Pretty much the history of loud rock, 1968-present. But mostly late 60's psych, early 70's hard rock and prog, late 70's punk, early 80's metal and post-punk, late 80's heavy rock (i.e. grunge) and late 90's heavy rock (i.e. stoner rock). On the other hand, there's the Art Bears, Socrates Drank The Conium, Van Der Graaf Generator, the Groundhogs and James Brown... OK, that probably didn't help much... Sounds Like No one else, hopefully. OK, it's loud. There are guitars. Record Label Wondertaker Records, http://www.wondertaker.com Type of Label Indie jack endino's Latest Blog Entry [ Subscribe to this Blog ] The Gigs! ( view more ) Back in Seattle... ( view more ) Still working in Brazil, home soon... ( view more ) [ View All Blog Entries ] About jack endino If you found me here, you probably know what I've been doing for the past 20 years (recording/producing a zillion bands in ten countries; playing in Skin Yard, Wellwater Conspiracy, Upwell, etc)... see jackendino.com for the gruesome details (ranting, production discography, photos, articles, "grunge," Seattle, Nirvana, etc). Still doing it, BTW... recent examples: The Beautiful Mothers, Black Halos, Makers, Upwell, Zeke, Jodi Hates The World, Dirty Power, etc... see friends list. But the whole point of me being here on MySpace is this: I recently finished my third solo record Permanent Fatal Error, and it's out now on Wondertaker Records of SF. I play guitar (lots) and sing, and wrote all the tunes. It is very loud. It took me ten years to make it. Why? Cuz it needed to be as good as the records I was making for other bands... and that set the bar pretty high. I wasn't going to settle for some bullshit vanity record. Drummers on it include Barrett Martin (formerly of Screaming Trees, Mad Season, Skin Yard), Josh Sinder (Accüsed, TAD, The Insurgence) and even myself on a few tunes. Bassists include Rob Skinner (Coffin Break, Earthworm), Alex Sibbald (Accüsed), Pat Pedersen (Skin Yard, Sister Psychic), and myself. Everyone played their asses off. (Thanks guys!) Reviews that are starting to trickle in have been pretty gratifying; people are definitely "getting it", one by one. Nope, no corporate promo money behind me, folks! We're talking 100% DIY indy rock here (which is the best kind). If you've reviewed it, written about it, or played it on college radio, you know who you are, and I hereby thank you for supporting indy rock. (If you haven't seen it yet, be sure to watch for an odd-looking package in your inbox from "Wondertaker.com, SF".) UPDATE: CD is now available at CDBaby.com! YOU could be the first one on your block (or in your country) to own this unrelenting slab. CDBaby takes credit cards and will ship world-wide. I'll also sell it to you from jackendino.com , along with all the Skin Yard records and my other solo CDs, but I only take PayPal. RECORD STORES: In US, order from IDC, Carrot Top or Lumberjack-Mordam. In Europe, Cargo and their affiliates are handling it. If you don't see it in your local indy store, ask for it, they can order it. Thanks for reading and listening! jack endino's Friend Space jack endino has 959 friends. Skin Yard Rock Lord and Master The Black Halos The Grannies Zeke The Beautiful Mothers Lucid Nation Dirty Power View All of jack endino's Friends jack endino'sFriends Comments Displaying 50 of 80 comments ( View/Edit All Comments ) American School Of Warsaw Jan 1, 2006 03:09 PM Happy New Year Jack! Thanks again for everything. You are a great guy to work with. Here's to a great mix in 2006!!! See ya in few days! JEREMIAH Dec 29, 2005 09:54 AM i bow to you sir...if i see "produced by jack endino"...i know its going to be worth my cash. you have the highest pedigree of rock. Paul D. Dec 27, 2005 11:59 PM thanks for the add, i really love the music on this page. it fucking rocks. I&.39;d love to work with you sometime with my original project. thanks for the great tunes M Dec 26, 2005 12:18 PM Happy Holidays to my favorite producer ever.... and much praise and congrats on your latest masterpiece..... Gruff Mummies Dec 19, 2005 02:46 AM yeahhhh, brain damage island is still alive and kicking. nice to hear from you, i haven't seen you since recording. i heard you on the young & the restless tonight; very choice song picks. yeah, i was actually talking to kirk the other night about how rediculous it is that you haven't gotten a copy of the album yet...good lord! anyway, i will make sure it reaches you very soon, but in the time being, take care and hopefully see you soon! happy holidayz! love, paul & gm Skin Yard is two fucking words Dec 18, 2005 03:59 AM you sir are a nice man. I'm going to go sniff around your garage and see what i can purchase. also thankyou for the lovely comment you left me, it improved a rather average day. Stroud Dec 17, 2005 02:24 PM Good Stuff Bro...... Scrooge McFuck Dec 17, 2005 10:59 AM The marvelous Jack Endino - stop making pop-punk look bad, you sexy beast. trentalange Dec 17, 2005 10:34 AM I am a fan of your work. Thanks for listening to my music. Mark (Mr. Pix) is the greatest. He was amazing to work with. John Fisher Dec 17, 2005 05:41 AM Hey Jack....I wanna thank you for changing the way we hear. I know I myself am better off for it. Those songs on the player are wicked good eh! Love and Respect SquidFishous HOVEL Dec 16, 2005 06:35 PM Hey Jack, We love your work! The Black Halos Dec 7, 2005 02:07 PM Best Wishes to the Sixth Halo, "He who is not entirely unrocking" you are missed www.blackhalos.net kaskadia Dec 6, 2005 04:47 PM Mr. E, Thanks for the add and the comment. Can't believe i forgot to put Skin Yard under our list of influences. Psycho Rifle Power Hypnotized! hell yeah. Rocket Records Dec 6, 2005 11:32 AM We will reeks of awesomeness... Another five raceboats from my snails of months and my nine hammers will bomb my excoriated oblivious and perfect mister pants. Nixon Now Dec 5, 2005 10:53 AM hey jack so good to hear from you i remember that session very well too in fact it was the best recording session ive ever been involved in glad you dig nixon now ill send you a copy of the new album (out in january) is your po box adress still valid? cheers andi Sound Bites Dog Mastering Dec 4, 2005 10:33 PM Your new shit sounds killer! I'm definitely buying a copy... If you ever need a mastering engineer...look me up. -H DeKline/Sound Bites Dog Brian Akers Dec 4, 2005 06:32 PM Hi Jack, without sounding like the cliche comment, you ARE one of my heros and I appreaciate your acknowledgement. Thanks for making my world a little more tolerable...and if I ever make it up there, we will definitly go get a burrito for lunch...... Twilight Singers Dec 4, 2005 05:01 AM "You take my life and I'll take yours, too...you fire a musket and I'll run you thru..." stephan Dec 1, 2005 02:45 PM hey jack... have you ever read the article about you on wikipedia? i found it hilarious but maybe that's just me... "Jack Endino is a music producer. He has produced such notable bands such as Nirvana and Hot Hot Heat. He lives in Seattle, and will sit down and talk to you if you promise to buy him lunch." steve albini has a much longer article... but then again, he's steve albini ;) Mike Nov 29, 2005 10:31 PM Hey thanks for the add, met you briefly at Maxwell's in Hoboken, NJ a couple years ago when you were playing bass with Wellwater. New album sounds great! Rock on man. Helios Creed Nov 27, 2005 09:34 PM hey mr jack endino. remember the fun we had making the last laugh. we gotta have another last laugh and make another album to bend minds, your a great guitar player and a great engineer{^_^} American School Of Warsaw Nov 27, 2005 02:56 PM Jack, Thanks for all of your patience putting up with us for 12 hours! I think the drums came out great and it will be fun to get the rest of it put together. Looking forward to seeing you again after X-mas. Have a good one and we'll see ya soon! Sean and the boys of ASOW une chienne Nov 22, 2005 08:59 PM Listened to Sieg Howdy! the other day Good job with it! KEY NOTE SPEAKER Nov 16, 2005 12:47 PM I love Jack's Frankenstein guitar ;) I got to look, touch and even play it! The fretboard is so huge it dwarf'ed my tiny little hands :) DeFecTive Nov 13, 2005 03:22 AM Your sound permeated my college years. Thanks! >;) UPWELL Nov 8, 2005 01:43 AM Awesome show at the Funhouse! You sure can play the geetar...the action looked pretty low on that thing. What's up with that? One would assume that Jack would have a set of 15's at least. Great to see you. Welcome home, ~Steve Whitey McMexican Nov 7, 2005 02:57 PM Jack!! Good to see you on here...and good stuff as always! I'm sure I'll catch you at a show...somewhere...someday...take care! Tim Smith Nov 7, 2005 12:13 AM Hey Jack, great show today at Easy Street!! Tony Slug Nov 6, 2005 10:50 AM Foreskin YArd. Ziegler (TicTac Posse) Nov 1, 2005 08:01 PM Jack tought me cassette azimuth adjustment and for that i'll forever love him. BILLORDO Oct 31, 2005 06:34 PM a full!!!!!!!!!! yr music is great! Craig Oct 28, 2005 06:40 PM Good to see you back on stage again - the new Endino band rocks! lipstick101 Oct 27, 2005 08:44 PM You're funny. So is 11 years enough time for you to unpack? Seriously- we've gotta turn that place into a swingin' Den of Sin. P.S. You should email Glenn Danzig on this thing. He is a HUGE Skinyard fan. Xo, Your Hot Landlady Scott Oct 27, 2005 07:51 PM *NOTE: The hxc music is okay, but the scene itself really sucks. That's what I meant. Scott Oct 27, 2005 07:49 PM It's great to hear some true music when the world is full of fakes. p.s. The modern-day hxc scene is horrible. Avoid it at all costs. lipstick101 Oct 27, 2005 12:18 PM I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobatomy. Your album rocks- can't wait to catch a show. XO, M MuSick Records Oct 27, 2005 02:56 AM Thank you for joining the world of MuSick Records - you got good taste! Slave Traitor Oct 26, 2005 11:27 AM Hail Jack! We're looking forward to your show down at the Funhouse in early November. If only more people had ears like Jack, the world might hear things differently. Chach Headquarters Oct 26, 2005 09:15 AM The rowdiest, loudest, and nastiest band in the land is back, albeit in a different capacity. We're here for your pleasure. ChachMe.com There's a lot of love in this place, we can feel it. Sweet lovins' from Chach!! NEVER THE PIRATE Oct 25, 2005 03:58 AM a beautifull man that earth needs to thank for his existence Lagartija Nick Oct 22, 2005 10:32 PM Don't make me come over there and quote Gentle Giant lyrics outside your door! Jack Endino rules. Dead Ribad Oct 22, 2005 02:52 PM the mighty Endino! thanks for the add. i think i read your entire website, some great advice. i dig your resume, sir. Gruff Mummies Oct 21, 2005 01:26 AM Wicked tunes Jack. Tony Slug Oct 20, 2005 01:09 PM What the fuck is this shit Jack ? POWER GRUNGE ??? Speaking of power, the power chord shalt not be inpeded i.e. NO DISSONANT SHIT (Unless you are Greg Ginn...maybe) Just ribbin yo ass :D T One Man Sun Oct 17, 2005 01:08 PM Thanks for the add. I still pop in Skin Yard. If you ever talk to Ron Nine, tell him Dan from Grand Rapids, Mi. says hello. See ya, D Green Lizard Oct 17, 2005 08:18 AM Waah, sounds great, so does your stream soundwise by the way... what trickery is this?! cheers remi The Wurst Oct 16, 2005 03:49 PM Yeah, we love all that stuff. Your new songs sound great! Elusive kicks ass, man! Squid Row Daze Oct 14, 2005 12:53 PM oh man jack thanks so much for adding me and i just have to say that youre so cool and thanks for all the awesome things you have done for music! i like your new songs on here too keep it up mike emmick Europeans Records Oct 14, 2005 11:35 AM ============================ thanx Jack for add. You work for one of our bands - Blue Raincaot. And its a great album :) and congratulation for a new solo album! best whishes from POLAND Arthur from Europeans Records ============================ Daniel Oct 12, 2005 08:29 AM SO glad this is finally coming out...by FAR the best thing that you have yet released...by miles. It's an amazing collection of songs. Makes me proud to share a history with you! 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